Maybe you are just a willing participant to their manipulation. In short, one should realize that physical healing does not take into account the being and the repercussion on the spiritual beingness of the person., The purely physical facts of injuries, illnesses and stresses are themselves incapacitating and do themselves often require physical analysis and treatment by a doctor or nutritionist. All documentaries have a viewpoint. Mr. Dennis Wayne "Butch" Tweed, age 69, Limestone, passed away peacefully Saturday, February 25, 2012 at his residence surrounded by his family. Tayler clearly suffered from mental illness throughout her life, and never received the treatment she needed. Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? #ScientologyTheAftermath" Obituaries can vary in the amount of information they contain, but many of them are genealogical goldmines, including information such as: names, dates, place of birth and death, marriage information, and family relationships. So lets just stick to the kindness, love, and respect, shall we? D) A good nutritional diet that provided all essential nutrients. But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 Historic Notices 0. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Getting rid of David Miscavige as _Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is.. It is even doubtful if full healing can be accomplished by medical treatment alone and it is certain that an assist greatly speeds recovery. Who Where Receive obituaries Mary Marguerite Taylor February 15, 2023 (95 years old) View obituary Glenn Franks February 16, 2023 (88 years old) View obituary Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? Basically, its not a universal given that family has to be placed first in the search for spiritual freedom unless thats your belief. With adults, I think its a slippery slope to tell them what they should or should not believe in and practice. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. He often would refer to the body as a second class citizen, or imply it was a trap; that you need to grab it by the scruff of the neck and take charge. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. But I dont see him getting into a plane and going to Texas to help. But you are the police officer taking her complaint. Thank you, Jim Dandy!! Depression can result in death. What we need to do is to push for reformation with an specific message (non accusative, non punitive, non harshly critical) repeated over and over again, while showing specific instances that totally prove our points. Its often hard to predict who is truly suicidal. Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. Bullshit. The first time Tony reported on Tayler Tweed was from a phone conversation with her mother the day after her daughters funeral. Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. I could not do anything like that. In recent times, Tyler Tweeds death was surfed by many individuals. After an intensive program delivered by a field group last summer, Tayler was once again suicidal. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. Or something actually never explained. My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. Cal., and both never mentioned by LA Times. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. Different from that Introspection Rundown, isnt it? http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Could it be that you ARE one???? NC, and Patricia Gayle Mills of Monroe, NC; and grandchildren, Taylor Tweed, Alexia Tweed, Nathan Tweed, and Harper Tweed. My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. Sure. Ratings. I cant honestly say that I know enough about her to make a fair comment as to her potentials. But in any event, the world is full of false beliefs. In my pre Miscavige time I looked at scn as a form of psychology and self improvement. Way to absolutely avoid the question.. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. But first of all, what is meant by mentally ill? It isnt true that Scn doesnt believe in doctors. You end up having to lie and cover over important information and over simplify things to mold disconnection into a weapon that creates a moral panic around scientology. It is a dangerous brain illness. View all 146,994 burial records for Mountain View Cemetery, Surnames T, in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, for British Columbia Genealogy Research, compiled by Vancouver Genealogy Volunteers Like me. (Collins) Passed away on the 14/01/2023 and will be sadly missed by her whole. This screams Scientology to me. Publications: The Daily Telegraph, The Advertiser, The Courier-Mail, The Gold Coast Bulletin. Will they reform? She shared over 62 loving years of marriage with husband John L . I am currently working on that. So what. Ouch! By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. The level of delusion and victimhood on behalf of the mother is sickening. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor! Dont you know that I like to feel certain about things? Dec. 4, 2022. Born January 15th 1928 in County Donegal and died peacefully on January. I DO believe in the goodness of others, my friend, as one of my basic beliefs in live. The guy is NUTS, I thought. She was despondent about being alone for the holidays. In my opinion, the best way to handle this is not by trying to demonstrate who is stronger or more badass, which is the current narrative of BOTH, the church and the anti-Scientology movement. I am tired the shit of you guys. Either way, your assertions arent factual. The reason for this is because I am about to . I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? And they are all good friends, as far as I know. Seems that most of her information came from FB and text messages that Tayler had with a friend. Yes, this mother lost a child, but her son says they tried everything and yet they didnt. This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. He was a graduate of Middle Township High School's "Class of 69" and was a member of the reunion committee, helping to plan all class reunions. I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! I my humble opinion, reform IS possible, and even using specific LRHs policies themselves. To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. Obituary SARAH AND AUGUSTUS TWEED WOODMANSEE February - 15, 1987 - June 11, 2015 Sarah Michelle Tweed Woodmansee,28, and her unborn son Augustus 'Gus' Tweed Woodmandsee, passed away at home surrounded by those who loved them most. If Leah and Mike would have emphasized specific instances of Disconnection and Fair Game practices, where only factual data capable of being PROVED was shown preferably with documents, videos, etc that might have acted as enough Media pressure for the church to decide to reform a few things, even if they would do it backstage, you know, without publicly admitting to anything. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore. Glasscock's classic 1935 book . He has even been used as an expert witness in several court cases of psychiatry abuses : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin, Gee, I think that David Miscavige ought to hire me as his spoke person, instead of that lawer of his, who I feel that a little training in correct public relations, would be a good thing for her to consider, . It sounds like you tried to help her and in the best way you knew. In recent times, Tyler Tweed's death was surfed by many individuals. NOBODY deserves to be starved and beaten and to lose their families. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. Yeah, we all know the answer to that question I think. Naturopaths? And so it is a waste of time to harp on that if you really want to make scientology less dangerous. For his role as a spiritual healer, or advisor, no licensing is expected, of course. Doh! Carl Smith, Jr. Georgie Ann Glaser. Never once was she mean or nasty towards me. May 23, 2021 This is Taylor Tweed's mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylor's suicide being featured on A&E's Scientology and the Aftermath. Sorry, but thats evaluative and rude. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !! Friendly hint- dont say the sorts of things that you might criticize or object to others saying. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. A LOT, I assure you, one of them being myself, and another being the mother of my daughter. Your search results for obituary: 26 newspaper articles contained information about obituary filtered by: Date from: 1st Apr 1973 - Date to: 30th Apr 1973 Its the fact that they threw her out that gets me.. Sorry; I got carried away. The Ryerson Index. He was a life member for more than 74 years with the Americus Hose Company, Bloody Third Ward. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. An assist is not a substitute for medical treatment but is complementary to it. Their motives for doing this may be more of a legal rudiment, rather than a professed belief in medicine. I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. Hear your loved one's obituary. "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. Aliens? John Mckenna Obituary, What was John Mckenna Cause of Death? Obituaries. Yet the chiros survived for the simple reason they did help people, often much better than doctors. I wish she had taken counsel and gone to see a mental health care provider, but without health insurance or financial backing, she felt it was impossible. And that is their right, IMO. Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? Lauren detailed her friendship with fellow second-generation Scientologist Tayler Tweed, whom she met as a teen fresh out of the Sea Org. The suicide rate among young adults and teens has been growing over the past few decades. Plus it is now becoming more evident that there was a lot more to the story regarding Tayler and her mother which was left out of the episode. Today, I would just get those to sign a waiver, if I were to audit them. But the one thing I disagree with Tony on is that the church had nothing to do with her suicide. You see, I feel that we must be very careful with mixing the religious aspect of Scientology with its psychotherapeutic aspect. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. What if Tayler was your daughter? Tyler Tweeds family and friends are in deep grief, and lets pray for them to receive peace. I do distinctly remember being told I needed another check up and I was not happy about it. Regular medical care is allowed though Hubbard did and members do tend to look down on traditional medical care. Come on, how obvious does it have to get? As a struggling artist with mental illness, Tayler had relied on her parents for financial support, which she could no longer rely on. Bethel Baptist Church of Greeneville. Through my career and lived experience I have worked intimately with survivors of suicide. Date of Death or Service Mar 5, 2023 . Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? Of course, know and not know are the same words that are on the Know to Mystery Scale with Know at the top, and in order to get there you have to go through Not-Know. What she went through is horrific. One of the spiritual teachings, which might seem contrary to Rons idea, is to not be too certain at least not in a fixed way. Of course you proved your point. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. Or am I going too fast? Leah and Mike added nothing as in no new information to Tony Ortegas 2 year old story. Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. Other groups were not the topic. For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. This test (questionnaire, which was mostly done unmetered) was usually done by me, as I was kind of famous for spotting troublemakers even without the e-meter, and on the spot. Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. Whereas the Aftermath program clearly had Facebook messages from Tayler asking for help, and of Cathy pushing Tayler away. But there are always 2 sides of a coin, and in the show only one coin is shown, and usually their stories besides facts, also contain half-truths, generalizations, unsupported assumptions, hearsay, and faulty conclusions. You guys are cowards and pieces of shit for having her ceremony at Celebrity Center. Really? Then you have the HCO BULLETIN OF 28 JUNE 1969RA REVISED 26 JULY 1978 RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, HOW TO CASE SUPERVISE DIANETICS FOLDERS which says : Very sick pcs are sent directly to a medico of course.. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. Remove (or reform, or rehabilitate) such individual form the scenario, and sanity will find its way in again, I guarantee you that. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Did Cathy make some mistakes as a mother? He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. COINCIDENTALLY enough, what Ortega, Jeffrey Augustine, Shelton, Aaron Smith-Levin, and Mike Rinder post, are in PERFECT synchronicity about the SAME EXACT subjects. Then I watched a YouTube video from the Vulcan First Officer Chris Shelton where he was using Critical thinking to mock that absurd idea of an Anti-Scientology Cult. Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. Well, try to go to Flag (the principal Scientology organization) for services and tell them that you are sick, and see what happens. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed is not human, just like you? Scientology was. I told you this little story, so that others here understand that not ALL of us were uncompassionate and ignorant of how to REALLY help someone. I beg to differ, Statpush, and I am not trying to influence your opinion here. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). I enjoy the show. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. I understand. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. . And how could someone stand right next to her kid in a ticket line at the airport or at the funeral and say nothing. `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. : https://alanzosblog.com/critics-scientology-withdraw-support-direction-season-2-scientology-aftermath/. Otherwise, you can forget about getting audited. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). Well, TC, a compelling posting, indeed. Thats tough for me to get past. Bristol, VA -Leo Tignor Tweed, age 81, passed on Wednesday, April 6, 2022, in Oakmont at Gordon Park. Select a region on the map to view notices in your chosen area. I went to see a doctor, did the tests, was found with my triglycerides very high, and my blood pressure high enough so as to be put on a special diet (I used to eat a lot of junk food back then; now, I dont), which I did long enough to get everything back down to normal. 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